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ahmedfromtunistoday at 5:01 PM2 repliesview on HN

I built a toy news-summarizing agent with Gemma 4, and it was so frustrating, actually, because of the cut-off date.

The model wasted over half the token budget, each time, on internal debates over the current date.

When generating a World Cup summary, for example, it refused to believe qualification rounds were over and refused to even call the web searching tool to collect the data.

I injected the current datetime at the very beginning of the system prompt, but Gemma refused to believe it!

The m-effer insisted the timestamp was fake and hypothesized it was being evaluated in a synthetic lab test with simulated future dates!

No amount of system prompting could convince it to trust the clock.

That was the most frustrating and bizarre "bug" I ever faced!


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carlos_rpntoday at 8:30 PM

Qwen 3.6 did the same thing for me.

Only after some cajolling it finally went to check the history I asked it to (I had been testing KoboldCPP's web search).

ThunderSizzletoday at 8:23 PM

Did you try other models (e.g. Qwen3.6 or others)? I'm curious how others fare.

I've noticed Qwen3.6 struggles a bit with today/date based logic.