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RomanKornevtoday at 12:24 AM1 replyview on HN

Starting to feel more and more like chinese room experiment

The models are confidently answering physics questions, treating it as a math problem, but they don't fundamentally "get it" and even recently failed simple "should i drive to car wash" test

The sample efficiency is just crazy low

Still surprising that even with this they managed to saturate the benchmarks


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red75primetoday at 12:47 AM

> they don't fundamentally "get it"

There's no clear decision criteria for this. Do trick questions demonstrate that most people don't "get it"? And, well, older model saying dumb things doesn't establish a general principle that LLMs don't "get it" in general.

> The sample efficiency is just crazy low

Autoregressive pretraining requires huge amount of data to go from a blank state to a somewhat functional model. Fine-tuning, LORA, reinforcement learning of foundation models and in-context learning are much more sample efficient.

> Chinese room

...creates a wrong intuition that by cranking a Leibniz's mill you are somehow responsible for whether it understands something or not.