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hunterpaynetoday at 3:54 AM0 repliesview on HN

The irony of this post is truly off the scale.

The term socialism wasn't defined by Marx. That's the heart of why you don't understand the definition of that word. There are a half dozen different branches with different definitions, all of which predate Marx. The only reason that you think that is that Lenin made him famous. But you can have socialism without any of the things you mention. It still doesn't work but its different. Think Finland in the 1970s or Sweden in the 1980s. Or Britain and Spain today. Those are all socialist societies by their own definitions. They also don't work.

PS Now a serious question, do you think your country is worth defending? If not, why should another country think it is?