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delichontoday at 1:29 AM4 repliesview on HN

  centenarians per 10,000
  Japan   8.8
  France  6.3
  Italy   3.6
  Canada  3.2
  US      3.0
  UK      2.4  
  Germany 2.2
  Russia  0.9
  China   0.3
  India   0.2
What are Japan and France doing so much better?

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zugitoday at 1:37 AM

> What are Japan and France doing so much better?

I think the question misunderstands the data.

Or more specifically, a big part of the answer is "not having kids." Think about the denominator.

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imachine1980_today at 1:46 AM

I have two hypotheses.

First, France already had negative demographic trends during the Napoleonic era. That might help explain why Macron’s call for a “demographic rearmament” is not necessarily taboo today. France started experiencing smaller family sizes quite a long time ago, so the current demographic numbers are partly a reflection of past trends rather than the situation today. In a few years, Italy will probably face an even worse situation.

Second, in some countries, the very high number of elderly people may partly be the result of inaccurate population records. Some countries have a combination of incentives for elderly people and demographic records that were badly damaged during WWII. This may have made it relatively easy for someone to claim that they were, for example, their grandmother and receive benefits. Decades later, some of these people are supposedly over 100 years old.

There is even an Ig Nobel Prize associated with research into this phenomenon.

packetlosttoday at 1:29 AM

Smoking

stefap2today at 2:23 AM

One would say a leisurely life in France, but on the other hand, the Japanese are not known to take a leisurely approach to life.