Unsolvable problem.

Why was the aesthetic standard to be pale when workers worked the fields and royals were inside, but tan when workers moved into factories and only the rich could afford to go on a beach vacation?

Aesthetic standards are formed by association. Its why sites that are "well designed" but obviously just use a squarespace or wix template feel so cheap. Why millenial flannel went from hip to standard to outdated. Why purple was the color of royalty before we could synthesize the pigment.

Having good design is about associations. Whatever design LLMs will default to, it will always feel cheap because we will learn over time that that design means cheap. Having good taste is about being ahead of the curve. An LLM cant be ahead of the curve because then that becomes the standard, and theres a new ahead.

You can use LLMs to make novel looking websites by carefully telling it to add certain details, use certain elementd, etc. At that point youve looped back to being a graphic designer.

The problem is the overabundance of text, they can’t let it breathe. Everywhere has to be filled up with bits of hardly-relevant text.

I appreciate a nice brutalist aesthetic like this tbh. It’s also good that there’s a baseline for quality in terms of layout and spacing and contrast and whatnot usually, so the HN webshit meta conversation has shifted from that to whinging about an LLM making it.

The overall arrangement and useless shit LLMs put in the copy is often annoying though.

Mainly cause you never know what you’re getting. Over time, we trained our minds to believe that a well put site = effort, so at the very least people behind it cared. Now, it takes zero effort to make a site look good. So appearance in general means even less. In fact, now a poorly put together site might mean someone cared, wrote it by hand, flaws and all, to give you the human to human experience.

If there is a silver lining in all this, this might get us to appreciate the flaws in all humans, heck even yearn for them.

Same. I can’t really put my finger on what exactly is turning me off though. I mean, apart from the obvious AI-generated text.

Because "Make a website" (however more sophisticated the prompt might be) is not a path to knowing what to put on the website, what the personality of it should be, what the hierarchy of information should be, etc.

Sprinting to a finished-looking result at step 1 gives you the illusion that these decisions were considered, but even the casual observer quickly concludes that the page has 3000 words yet nothing to say.

Even when I'm interested and invested into the topic, somehow I just zone out and can't force myself to read it or read it with comprehension. Be it a website or a PR, there's just something to it that if it's more than a few sentences of it I just can't.

There must be a name to this phenomenon and I surely can't be the only one?

I find your comment off-putting. I think it's a great example of bikeshedding. Do you have anything to say about OpenJev the project, or just the bikeshed?

As a designer; only slightly. I'm not there to be blown away by awesome design.

Isn't this one mimicking the typesafe ai horror website ?

Cannot speak for all website, but this one is bad. I was clicking on some text thinking they were tabs or buttons, not the best UX

In the future I imagine we won't even visit websites anymore. We'll tell our own LLMs to visit the website and summarise it with information the LLM knows is relevant to us.

i dont see it visually, but the text on the page reads like the model is bending over backwards to comply with the prompt. i have that same voice on my website too and i am going to get rid of that text asap.

For me it's a bit like with some of the LLM prose - uncanny valley territory.

This one is so much better than the vast majority of sites though?

Clear and to the point. Not even a cookie popup (which ni user respectable site needs, so super low bar to clear).

If you meant the text then I agree.

I don’t mind the generic dark themed LLM ones even if they all look the same but this particular block looking one is not my fav

Yes, it's overly generic and provokes negative feelings in me, only.

People rushing to throw a thing out into the world, rushing so much that they don't even bother to use it or look at it themselves.

The same people who are likely seeing tens of the same sort of pages and immediately closing them because "who cares".

I mean I guess I'm looking at this too. But at this point the most interesting projects in the world to me are ones with bad CSS.

Maybe I am conditioned, but I found it nice and clean.

you're not alone

People say as much for AI generated images? They're alien intelligence with still some IQ challenges. Their behaviors therefore cause uncanny valley response. Nothing strange about that.

... one thing I'm noticing about negative reactions towards AI generated data is that older folks seem more lenient, appreciative, or even enthusiastic about them for some reason. Kids hate it. Young artists, vehemently so. Which is opposite of how technologies usually work, and that's a bit weird.

It's not just you.