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iamnotheretoday at 1:16 PM3 repliesview on HN

I don’t like how tokens have gradually evolved from a secure 2F device that you carry with you (Yubikey etc) to a single factor “passkey” that’s built in to your computer/phone, or worse, a password manager with export capability.

It should always have remained a second factor device. It’s not impossible to teach people to use these, European banking did it for years. There’s just no will to do it.


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dalyonstoday at 1:36 PM

It’s because we have effective biometrics now, so the need to carry around an inconvenient limiting physical 2nd factor is obsolete (for the vast majority of regular use cases)

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kccqzytoday at 1:43 PM

If a user doesn’t have a second factor, what should their first and only factor be? The passkey people are trying to posit that a passkey is better than a password as the only factor.

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sikozutoday at 1:39 PM

I 100% agree with this.

I have physical passkeys, one attached to my keys and another on my desk at home and I absolutely hate software based passkeys. Every single time I'm asked for a passkey it always ask me if I want to use my Apple Keychain first and I wish I could default to physical.