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How OpenAI Used Its Own LLMs to Design Its Jalapeño Chip

71 pointsby maxall4yesterday at 11:04 PM64 commentsview on HN

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pamatoday at 12:20 AM

Having worked with people doing bringup of specialized chips, I am awed at how the world has changed.

> When the first chips came back from the foundry in May, the team pointed its internal AI models at designing software to run benchmarks such as SemiAnalysis’s InferenceX. On DeepSeek’s multi-head latent attention kernel benchmark, performance climbed from 0.31 percent of the theoretical ceiling (set by the chip’s compute and memory bandwidth) to 88.94 percent in roughly 40 hours. Ho says this result is repeatable, so the time between when foundries deliver the first chips and when production ramps up can be reduced. “All our schedule assumptions are going to be based on the fact we have this capability now,” he says.

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program_whiztoday at 12:51 AM

With a few handy tips and tricks from apple insiders. But sure, I guess the LLMs helped too.

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muchdoubttoday at 12:46 AM

Seems pretty obvious now that OpenAI is just hyping their models in order to get companies (in this case, chip developers) to use their products in order to learn from their (exfiltrated) IP. Any corporation would be foolish to use any of their or Microsoft’s products, particularly those with valuable IP. There’s nothing in the article that says AI did anything creative but rather that it was used for software development within the overall project. Clear misleading title. Suggest to mark this as clickbait.

karim79yesterday at 11:25 PM

I grow Jalapeños. This conflation of AI and actual chili peppers irks me.

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xpcttoday at 1:03 AM

Aw, I was expecting more details but this just seems to be a rehash of what they unveiled a month ago.

gozucitotoday at 12:53 AM

It is surprising to me that recursive self-improvement seems more plausible now than it did in 2023. Am I the only one to be surprised?

I remember the paper proving that hallucinations could never be fully solved back in 2024: https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.05746

I also remember the hang-wringing about running out of new datasets to train on. Now it appears humans are always generating more data. It's just not as cheap to acquire as legacy data? Meta has to give a deep discount on their API prices to entice people.

I thought back then that humans had a few more breakthroughs in them as meaningful as the seminal Attention is all you need paper. Enough to 100x the capabilities of LLMs back then (10x the smarts and 10x the speed simultaneously).

RSI with a 20 month turnaround for a chip to be made is not exactly breakneck speed though. Physical manufacturing and logistical constraints are going to be and remain a hard obstacle to that process for the foreseeable future.

ameliusyesterday at 11:28 PM

At some point people will use an LLM to design an Apple M series competitor.

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ramshankertoday at 1:02 AM

So when can we start getting cheap chips? RAM anyone please!

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geraneumtoday at 12:37 AM

Whatever happened with the Apple lawsuit?

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google234123today at 1:02 AM

Congrats to the former TPU team

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cute_boiyesterday at 11:57 PM

openai should figure out how to make lithography machine, so ASML don't have monopoly on it.

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