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sega_saiyesterday at 1:58 PM5 repliesview on HN

"In scary headlines like these, technology is the subject, and teens are passive victims." -- I am sorry, but how is this not true, when companies like Meta are in full control of their algorithms, tuning them to maximum addiction.

One can indeed argue what is the best way to deal with the problem of kids and social media, but I think the article is misrepresenting the situation.


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trescenziyesterday at 2:25 PM

If you read the rest of the piece they do argue for more regulation. They aren’t making a personal responsibility argument like other commenters are saying.

The problem with bans is they claim the technology itself is purely bad and the only solution is to keep it from children. Which on its face is nonsensical. It’s ok for a 17 year old but not a 16 year old?

We need genuine regulation tackling the actual problems with this technology. Blanket bans do nothing but make adults feel good about “protecting the children”.

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somenameformeyesterday at 2:26 PM

I'd take this one step further and say this would be a major issue even without 'the algorithm' and other such 'engagement' maximization efforts. Way back before social media existed, things like BBS' and later on newsgroups were similarly extremely addictive. The only thing that changed with social media is that it all barriers to entry came crashing down and these sort of services became socially normalized, instead of being just made up of fringe tech enthusiasts.

And it's obviously a big problem for adults as well as kids, but I think there are many nuances there. One would be that we generally accept adults engaging in self destructive behaviors as part of the liberty of being an adult. You're free to go gamble away your life savings as an adult - but you won't even get in the door as a kid.

Another is that lot of the undesirable things that happen in schools (gossiping, conspiracies like false reporting, bullying, in-out crowds, image crafting, etc) get greatly magnified when you introduce social media. And that would happen even if the most benign/benevolent social media, absent any 'algorithm', engagement maximizing, and so on.

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charlieyu1yesterday at 2:17 PM

I grow up with ICQ where you can click a button to talk with a random stranger. Boomers were crying about Internet addiction.

30 years later, I’m fine and the boomers are the ones getting addicted to fake stuff on the internet.

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hmokiguessyesterday at 2:12 PM

Exactly, it's like talking about the symptoms and missing the point of the diagnostic.

vrganjyesterday at 2:09 PM

Yup. All this talk of personal responsibility in these types of situations is nothing but a perfidious form of victim blaming.

"The crack addict should've known better, it's not the dealer's fault they came back for more!"

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