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devyyesterday at 6:40 PM4 repliesview on HN

HBM4 and HBM4E DRAM are NOT the DDR4/5 that consumer markets need. Capacity allocation is leaning more to data center grade HBMs so less to produce dedicated DDR4/5 DRAMs. Supply demand will further drive up the consumer DRAM price! Note, the article mentions NO of new fabs is being constructed (all semiconductor manufacturers know that constructing more fabs means the boom/burst cycle will eventually kill them, so no one create more fabs) Perhaps the federal government need to step in here - the market doesn't fit the issue.


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tipsytoadyesterday at 7:04 PM

Plus it takes 3x the wafer capacity for hbm than the same byte capacity in dram, so we’ll likely see the consumer market be decimated here

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chr15myesterday at 11:22 PM

No, completely wrong. Supply and demand will definitely fix this.

More HBM4 will drive the price of it down. That will make it less profitable to produce. That will mean firms shift some production back to more profitable "consumer" RAM. Increased supply will lead to lower prices.

A shortage is always followed by a glut.

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bnjmsyesterday at 8:18 PM

HBM can be used for GPU though. I wish it was more common.

sgtyesterday at 7:04 PM

Might lower the prices of Mac Minis, Studios etc though

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