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Tychotoday at 8:27 AM1 replyview on HN

It’s because it’s practically useful and enabled things that were impractical previously.


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petesergeanttoday at 8:59 AM

> and enabled things that were impractical previously

I think that there are not _that_ many use-cases that have been opened up by this that tool-calling on other models didn't solve already. Really depends what benchmark you're looking at. This one against BANKING77[0] has many issues, but suggests it's really not far off DeepSeek 4.1 Flash. This one against BoolQ[1] shows marginal improvement over Qwen3.6. This one against MMLU-Pro[2] (same author as the previous) shows significant improvements over two Qwen models.

So there's definitely _some_ alpha there, but I don't think it's the sea-change that the hype would suggest; that is to say, yes, some things that weren't practical before are now, but many things were already very practical with the existing tools.

0: https://sanand0.github.io/llmevals/jev/

1: https://github.com/ekzhang/openjev-sglang/blob/a3554ed9e9c26...

2: https://github.com/ekzhang/openjev-sglang/blob/a3554ed9e9c26...