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brunoolivtoday at 12:52 PM1 replyview on HN

"There will be consequences"

And, so what? Software as an engineering discipline has long lacked standardization and regulation to be on par with other engineering disciplines, and the fact that code and all its surrounding ecosystems are not "visibile" or "malleable" makes this extremely hard.

You can use terraform and yaml to define infrastructure that literally spins up machines _somewhere_ in the internet. With all its issues, bugs and associated consequences mostly being ignored.

I just don't understand the difficulty in KNOWING what needs to be done: NO LLM usage in university/grad/high schools, NO LLM usage in the first 3 years of your professional career.

Once the basics are solidly grasped, then they can use it at will.

The problem has never been about wisdom, knowledge or LLMs writing good, bad, maintainable or terrible code. It has always been about the skill level of people using it AND on the fact that people start off-loading basic things to these models that they wouldn't before.

If you have the knowledge and "suffered" through experience to learn the fundamentals, than not using LLMs becomes more deterimental than beneficial.

You just CAN NOT skip the trial by fire of learning and absorbing knowledge on your own. That's all.


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nuancebydefaulttoday at 12:57 PM

> No LLM in schools

The only plausible thing to enforce in practice is "no LLM usage in tests", ie using pen and paper or a fully managed digital device.