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abepputoday at 2:26 PM3 repliesview on HN

Ok the photos are cool and it's nice to see the vintage street cars. But Muni has a budget shortfall and is planning on cutting a bunch of bus lines and reducing frequency on lines across the system. Meanwhile, it has an internal supply chain to custom build replacement parts for vintage vehicles that no other city will operate, and teams of specialist restorers. Viewed in isolation, they look cool! Viewed in context, is this ... irresponsible?


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dam_jackalopestoday at 4:18 PM

Depends on what value you place on the vehicles I suppose.

kqgnkqgntoday at 5:41 PM

The photos are really cool, and I do like trains and infrastructure in general.

But came here to say the same thing. There is an advertising campaign in SF right now to encourage people to vote to give Muni more money (again) in November, because they can't cover their essential costs. This...looks pretty non-essential to their core mission to me.

They should have done everything they can inside their org to cut costs, before going to ask residents to give them more money.

Now I hope - maybe this is primarily funded by donations / grants or volunteer work, and SFMTA contributes very little to this. If so great - but it would have been wise for them be very clear about that.

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convolvatrontoday at 6:33 PM

looks like the one time cost for doing a renovation is around $1m per car, and are funded by spot grants rather than the general budget. I was unable to find the overhead involved in ongoing maintenance, but it looks like killing the F line is already on the table.