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augment_metoday at 4:03 PM3 repliesview on HN

I think an interesting point is that hardware as of today still has no utility value after its reported lifetime has elapsed, which prevents neolabs and smaller labs from getting older HW clusters as the banks are not willing to give out loans against them. There is no agreed upon pricing for "expired" A100 clusters or similar.

This is clearly not true, and we are starting to see compute markets, but only for rental prices/H, not for the hardware itself. I feel like there is some artificial moat being built here to stimulate sales of new hardware, because an H100 at 1/16th the price will have comparable dollar/FLOP as Vera Rubin.


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csmoaktoday at 5:34 PM

https://www.stoaexchange.com/ is an exchange for hardware itself and has market data for prices over time.

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mathisfun123today at 6:01 PM

> HW clusters as the banks are not willing to give out loans against them

Which banks have analysts that understand the difference between H100 and A100? Do you have actual experience with being denied a loan based on this or are you just making things up?

linuxftwtoday at 4:14 PM

Depends on the workload. H100 will never have the network performance of Vera Rubin. There's also token per watt, newer systems will beat the older systems.

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