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time0utyesterday at 8:10 PM1 replyview on HN

Yes, agreed. I was speaking in general, of course. This particular topic is of interest to me, so thinking of the edge cases and confounds vs Jev.

In your example, I would expect an LLM to do fine and if you have access to the raw logits you can measure whether or not it was confused and assign a confidence to the answer it gave.

I do think that Jev handles more than this though and, in my early testing, does things that are not easily accomplished with guided decoding techniques.


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mmis1000yesterday at 8:19 PM

The way jev actually internally work could be interesting though. I believe most llm are only tuned to return the first or second logits(or a few more) correctly as that is what the sampler would choose anyway. Do they alter existing model for better behavior across all options? Or they distilled one to have the proper behavior? We can only guess without the actual implementation.

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