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YZFtoday at 1:00 AM1 replyview on HN

Hamas itself parades in uniforms but fights in civilian clothing. Somehow the anti-Israeli crowd can't form a complete argument without resorting to lies.

Your "skeptic stackexchange" "source" supports what I said. The "legal age" thing only applies in statistics/analysis. It is not the definition of combatant for targeting purposes. As an analysis it is a legitimate tool given Hamas doesn't identify whether casualties are combatants or not.

the downvotes and the flagging are another tactic where the anti-Israelis do not engage with the facts.

EDIT: The west bank incident is also completely irrelevant. Yes, Israel has special units that will operate as civilians, and those would be unlawful combatants as well in a war. But Israeli soldiers as a rule wear uniforms and Palestinians do not - ever. Your comment would be reasonable if the entire IDF fought in civilian clothing, then you'd be welcome to point that out. But in the war in Gaza the IDF soldiers wear uniform and fight according to international laws and the Hamas/PIJ etc. Palestinian "soldiers" do not wear uniform and do not respect any aspect of international law. These are the facts.

EDIT2: Re: the seizure of smuggled military equipment in 2018. You can't seriously suggest that Israel should equip Hamas with "thousands of items of military clothing, including boots, coats and combat vests, all in camouflage colors.". This is not serious.

EDIT3: to expand on why your sources support my claim. The questions asks: "Is it true that the instructions given to the IDF soldiers in Gaza are to consider "anybody who could be a combatant" as such and shoot them?"

Your answer refers to Israel's claims that it has killed "9000 Hamas Operatives". These are obviously not the same thing. The answer gives no support to the claim that soldiers in Gaza consider anyone who "could be a combatant" (military age male) a combatant and shoot them. This claim is absolutely false and easily falsifiable. There are a lot of videos of the IDF interacting with Palestinians in Gaza where males of military age are not shot at (e.g. who were asked to evacuate from the north to the south) and are not "shooting anybody who could be a combatant". That said the Hamas tactics of being "civilian" do endanger their civilians in situations that could be ambiguous.

Here's one example but there are endless: https://youtube.com/shorts/S9B1bxiQkHM?si=jTS_stZdoEg8-m--


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ceejayoztoday at 1:40 AM

> Hamas itself parades in uniforms but fights in civilian clothing… But Israeli soldiers as a rule wear uniforms and Palestinians do not - ever.

Not even in parades?

> The west bank incident is also completely irrelevant.

How convenient.

> the IDF soldiers wear uniform and fight according to international laws

They are widely and credibly accused of not fighting according to international laws.

> You can't seriously suggest that Israel should equip Hamas with "thousands of items of military clothing, including boots, coats and combat vests, all in camouflage colors."

What military doesn't have boots, coats, and combat vests in its uniform?

You can't claim you get to treat them as illegal combatants because they don't have uniforms when you are embargoing the uniforms, lol.

> That said the Hamas tactics of being "civilian" do endanger their civilians in situations that could be ambiguous.

IDF HQ is right by a shopping mall. Fair to target?

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