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embedding-shapetoday at 11:22 AM5 repliesview on HN

> He did harass them a bit.

Maybe I'm too European to understand, where exactly is harassment occurring? He's asking Meta employees questions, doesn't seem to follow them around, and when they walk away or say no, he doesn't exactly force them to stay or anything? Doesn't there have to be some intimidation or humiliation or similar for it to be harassment? Or asking employees what they think of the products they develop and support is the harassment part?


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Vinnltoday at 12:16 PM

I felt a bit uneasy when the employees indicate they're uncomfortable with the filming and he asks them why, while continuing to film. Given how they're blurred out and that their discomfort is kind-of the point w.r.t. the issue he's trying to raise, I don't think this meets the bar that Meta usually adheres to when it comes to taking down videos, but describing it as "a bit" of harassment doesn't sound too wrong to me.

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WhitneyLandtoday at 12:17 PM

I don’t know the legal of boundary harassment but he’s clearly trolling them and making people uncomfortable.

hyperpapetoday at 11:39 AM

I am just an American, but I live in Portugal and it is legally not allowed to film people in public without their consent (you also can't have a street facing surveillance camera like in the US). Moreover, people take this rule very seriously. If it appears that you are doing so, they will be visibly bothered (I know some kids who have had uncomfortable interactions because they weren't aware).

I don't think blurring faces fully addresses that (though I'm not commenting on legality in Amsterdam).

I can see the argument that this video is in the public interest (hey, I'm Americanese), but it does seem plausible some people would find it a violation of a norm.

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teekerttoday at 11:58 AM

He's specifically bending down to look at the behinds of the persons, also asks them to turn around "scanning" them.

If anything I think the employees are all nice people. I get the message but it's cringy to watch.

I'm also against cameras everywhere, but let's not pretend this is not all also possible with other devices.

Of course, Meta taking this down but not a lot of other, completely the same, stuff is the bad thing.

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deadbabetoday at 11:27 AM

You don’t understand the difference between recording things in good faith vs recording things because you want a reaction you can exploit for personal gains.

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