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jrflo • today at 2:48 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

Does anyone actually pay API costs out of their own pocket? It's about 10x cheaper to just get a codex or chat gpt subscription, it's so heavily subsidized compared to the API that I'm sure it would be cheaper to use frontier models on a subscription plan rather than paying API prices for deepseek flash.


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lowercased • today at 2:51 PM

I do. For local dev work, I'm mostly using jetbrains' Junie, I can swap between a collection of models from google, openai, anthrophic.

I've had more than a few people tell me "oh, it's so much cheaper to use a $20 claude account" or "i've never hit a limit ever using my openai". Inevitably.. I end up reading/hearing "oh, I need to give it another couple hours to start using it again"... I've never hit that with my approach, even if it's costing me a bit more. Being able to work when I want when I have time has some value.

I also have openai and anthropic direct API billing set up for hosted and client projects that need to call out to an LLM service.

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mmmattt • today at 2:57 PM

I do, 3-4$ a month of deep seek is enough for my usage

akmarinov • today at 3:46 PM

I pay $100 for Codex and it last about a day in the weekly limit - mostly Astra and Sol.

Then i got $20 into DeepSeek and i've been using those $20 for two weeks every day now. Use case is automating computer/browser use - Astra is really good at it, but very expensive, Sol and Luna haven't been that great at it, Deepseek as at about 80% of Astra but lasts forever.

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szszrk • today at 3:33 PM

I do, but via OpenRouter. Outside of work my use cases are small and cheaper models do great job at those. I noticed even if I "burn tokens like crazy" I still pay less than any subscription available (a few $ a month).

But I guess if I had an agent vibecoding on it's own, I'd go with subscription instantly.

LeBit • today at 2:59 PM

I use local LLMs on my Mac Mini.

Otherwise DeepSeek Flash 4.1 is dirt cheap (other "Flash" models are not that expensive either). I pay (very few dollars) out of my own pocket.

There are many things where having an API Key is necessary.

Maybe I’ve missed the boat though: is there now a method to use an api key to access a subscription?

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h46u5jytyhtg • today at 2:50 PM

Large enterprises pay per token even through a ChatGPT “membership”, for example.

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seki285 • today at 3:59 PM

>heavily subsidized

Do you think this will be a problem in the future?