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zacharycohn • today at 6:00 PM • 12 replies • view on HN

Ugh. I saw the headline and I was hoping it would be an entry-level, low cost, highly analogue, "looks just like a normal car but electric" car.


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sgarrity • today at 6:04 PM

Yes!

The closest thing I could find to a "normal car but electric" was the Hyundai Kona EV (I know, it's more small-SUV than 'car). So, I bought one.

It's good. There are physical controls for the temperature and volume, and the door handles aren't stupid.

I walked away from a Ford Mach-E because I didn't want to have to explain how to open the doors to ever person I drove for the next five years.

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AnnikaL • today at 7:15 PM

The article does say that the electric Corolla is to be priced at $30k, about $3,000 more than the hybrid and $5,000 more than the gas-powered one. That may not be objectively 'low cost', but it's comparable in cost to the lowest-cost new EVs, and probably similar total cost of ownership to the hybrid/gas cars when considering cheaper fuelling.

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wakamoleguy • today at 6:04 PM

Looks like most of the images are concepts. I wonder if the looks will change before launch? And they do say the cost is only a few k above the gas models. Something to wait and see, I guess.

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gwbas1c • today at 7:16 PM

It is low cost! The Tesla Model 3 was twice the cost almost a decade ago.

BTW: The price premium for electric is offset by the lower cost of electricity, and the fact that electricity's cost is much less volatile than gas.

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andriy_koval • today at 9:49 PM

> entry-level, low cost, highly analogue

there is a chance that slapping one screen is now lower cost than few dozens mechanical knobs, connectors and sensors

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josefresco • today at 6:50 PM

I'd expect it to look similar to the current Prius and not like these concepts.

https://www.toyota.com/prius/

vvillena • today at 7:03 PM

The exterior design language is the same as their current newer models like the C-HR or even the GR GT. The interior is like any other concept car. I don't like it either, but it looks like a normal Toyota.

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alphabeta3r56 • today at 6:01 PM

Toyota does sell those. Just not in EU/NA. Toyota hyryder sells in India for 15k Euros.

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asdff • today at 6:28 PM

Highly analogue? We all want that but you have to realize we aren't ever getting that. The incentives aren't there.

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lern_too_spel • today at 7:55 PM

The article says the gas version will look the same, so it matches your "looks just like a normal car but electric car" requirement.

api • today at 6:24 PM

Look into the Nissan Leaf, one of the early EV models. I don't know what the 2026 is like but my 2021 has 220-ish miles of range and is... an electric car.

It's a car. That's electric.

Physical buttons. Normal doors. Normal design. Normal handles. Normal controls. Drives great and accelerates better than an economy gas car.

As a bonus, that means almost the entire car is standard. Other than the electric drive train, a regular mechanic can work on everything else: tires, wheels, brakes, suspension, etc.

It's given us basically zero problems. Maintenance so far is a few minor recall items (free fixes) and a tire rotation. We bought it new during COVID.

Only downside to the 2021 model was the CHaDemO (or however you caps it) plug, which is obsolescent. I think recent models have CCS. There is a converter dongle and if I fast charged often I'd pick one up. Apparently they work but they're a little pricey since unfortunately it's not just a simple plug converter. It's a different signaling and locking system, so it has to be a smart dongle.

The Leaf is massively underrated IMO.

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lenerdenator • today at 6:47 PM

If it makes you feel better, this is a concept. They probably won't produce the vehicle they showed, especially since customers are making it known that they want regular buttons/door handles/HVAC vents/etc.

... probably.