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qoez • today at 11:36 AM • 8 replies • view on HN

I always assumed this was an america-only drug that no one actually does or at least not to the excess that it's claimed by the publications using it for the normal fear journalism purposes.


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gwbas1c • today at 1:46 PM

It's very appealing to smugglers because its ultra-high potency means that a massive amount of doses is very, very tiny.

Thus, no surprise that it shows up elsewhere.

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ozlikethewizard • today at 11:56 AM

Its gaining popularity in the UK and is starting to show up sporadically, but the opiod epidemic provided pretty extreme fuel to start the fire in America. No idea if itll ever take off here to the extent heroin did, depends on the economy I guess.

karolist • today at 1:31 PM

based on documentary style interviews I've seen of drug addicts in Lithuania, there's supposedly no more old school heroin left on the streets, it's been pushed out by fent.

carlosjobim • today at 2:27 PM

If it can happen to Americans, then why do you think it can't happen to you? What's the differentiating factor?

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catchnear4321 • today at 12:31 PM

it’s an issue in that not everyone using it even knows they are using it. maybe you think your plug is a great hookup for grey market pharmaceuticals. or are they?

selling “oxycodone”? maybe don’t bother acquiring oxycodone at all—press fentanyl into a convincing little blue pill and sell that instead.

selling “adderall”? methamphetamine is cheaper. counterfeit xanax? who knows what benzo is actually in it.

customer might not find out. customer might not even live.

mafia seems delightfully old school about this. they know business. this is bad business.

0xbadcafebee • today at 11:44 AM

2/3 of all ODs in US. More deaths per year than gun violence and car collisions combined, which are both quite high in US. Seventh most common cause of death overall. Over a quarter million people dead since 2018.

criley2 • today at 11:51 AM

No one "does" fentanyl, it's a highly addictive additive that is secretly added to other things. Even so, 50,000 - 70,000 Americans per year die to it (more than suicide and gun violence many other things).

This is an "American" thing because fent primarily comes from Mexican cartels (Sinaloa and Jalisco New Generation).

They buy precursors from China, they produce it in labs in Mexico, and then smuggle it into America where they kill 50,000 to 70,000 Americans per year.

Not getting political here -- but what would you think if organized crime in a neighboring country was murdering 50,000 to 70,000 of your countrymen per year?

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