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fn-mote • yesterday at 11:09 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

> Brute forcing every move, no matter how stupid, is a great strategy

Meh. I really disagree. WHY is it a great strategy? Seems like an inefficient waste of resources and time to me.


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stratos123 • yesterday at 11:26 PM

As the saying goes, "if it works, it ain't stupid". Or phrased more sophisticatedly: not doing things which probably won't work is a good idea if you have a limited amount of thinking to do (which is usually the case for a human, who'll get exhausted chasing down unlikely leads). If you have no good leads and a task you absolutely need done and you are tireless, however, bashing your head against every wall you find becomes a good strategy.

bionhoward • yesterday at 11:27 PM

Brute force is guaranteed to eventually find the most efficient possible solution (in an extremely inefficient manner, assuming you run it long enough)

hardaker • today at 12:28 AM

I've never liked the concept either. Except the bugs that fuzzing has found has proven me wrong. This is just the next level of fuzzing.

solarkraft • yesterday at 11:26 PM

The models tend to not be rewarded for not doing that.

williamdclt • yesterday at 11:33 PM

> WHY is it a great strategy

because it works? That's the only real benchmark at the end of the day

> Seems like an inefficient waste of resources and time to me.

why? For any given goal you got no proof that a more efficient strategy even exists, let alone that it can be found with less resources & time

senderista • today at 12:25 AM

Reminds me of the Nazis mocking Soviet human wave attacks and bragging about their superior kill ratio.

QuercusMax • today at 12:28 AM

Models don't have a sense of time, and wasting resources (token spend) is something that it's not clear they're optimized against

memonkey • yesterday at 11:29 PM

Yeah, probably not the best strategy but it is a strategy. I just think this is generally how most wars in history won. Biggest army to just pummel the enemy.

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