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mullingitover • yesterday at 10:57 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

> I'd love to see some source for this [proceeds to throw out a bunch of source-free numbers]

I looked up the source for these numbers.

It's the Center for Immigration Studies, and they are notorious for being a right-wing think tank used to dress up up anti-immigration policy using misleading statistics.

How notorious are they? Well, they are listed as a hate group with the Southern Poverty Law Center[1].

The numbers you're citing aren't 'welfare,' the biggest thing is using the education system. The thing that, long term, makes they into productive taxpayers. CIS doesn't figure the long-term benefits into their numbers because that would destroy their thesis.

[1] https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/center-i...


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zdragnar • yesterday at 11:54 PM

The HUD secretary mentioned the number, and the number was also included in a Congressional report, though it ended up being through testimony, also from that same source, which I hadn't realized. I'd been under the impression the one claim was independently sourced from actual federal data, rather being from CIS.

In any case, none of this amounts to immigrants using less welfare than native born residents, which is what I was asking sources for.