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tptacek • today at 6:11 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

However this makes people feel, and that's not nothing and I'm not knocking it, this is not a useful analysis.

Criminally, the intent standards for hacking are high enough that no reasonable case is going to be made against the labs for this stuff. A human being has to intend for websites to get hacked. Recklessness generally isn't enough. In the most severe criminal cases, not only do you have to prove intent to break into a computer, but you also need to prove an intent to defraud specific to that breakin.

Meanwhile, the civil liability that attaches to this stuff doesn't depend on intent, and "rogue agent" isn't a meaningful defense. To whatever extent the labs are exposed civilly, they're exposed regardless of how this stuff is described. In fact, the "rogue agent" thing can exacerbate their exposure.

(I'm not a lawyer, I have spent a career paying attention to this specific armpit of the law though.)


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