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jamienk • today at 6:21 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Ignoring for the moment issues of what "counts" as open, won't open models rapidly advance due to stuff like this in ways that it's less possible for the proprietary ones to do? This is exactly how Linux & Wikipedia, for example, overtook their "frontiers", right?


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andsoitis • today at 6:32 PM

> Ignoring for the moment issues of what "counts" as open, won't open models rapidly advance due to stuff like this in ways that it's less possible for the proprietary ones to do? This is exactly how Linux & Wikipedia, for example, overtook their "frontiers", right?

I suspect the advantage that catapulted Linux ahead of the establishment was less technical potential and talent and more organizational advantage. That's not to diminish the technical talent of the Linux crew, but them being unencumbered gave them more degrees of freedom. The rest is history.

So as long as the AI companies don't succumb to "big company" dynamics, they can outlead. To wit: Open AI and Anthropic are kicking Google's ass.

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segmondy • today at 6:32 PM

No, because close labs/models borrow but don't contribute back.

ssivark • today at 7:40 PM

This was exactly the crux of Nathan Lambert's recent testimony to a group of US Congressional members/staff: https://www.interconnects.ai/p/the-current-balance-of-power-...

swagatkonchada • today at 6:57 PM

Won't the "frontier" labs figure out whatever techniques were used and apply them to their closed models?

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zeroq • today at 6:55 PM

The difference between contributing to OS and AI, is that the first is a hobby alternative to woodworking or hiking, while the other can easily bootstrap you a company you can get millions in investment, at least for time being.

intothemild • today at 6:25 PM

Yes, absolutely, but only if people keep contributing in the open.

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