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Thinking fast and slow in AI: The role of metacognition (2021)

78 points • by teleforce • today at 3:23 AM • 21 comments • view on HN

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vist_orn • today at 8:03 AM

Trying to get LLMs to 'think about their thinking' is my daily struggle. This paper nails why it's so critical.

creativeSlumber • today at 7:30 AM

How relevant is this fast/slow thinking thing with regards to current frontier models?

I know a large organization who's built their AI framework completely around this concept, and I feel that it's not really meaningful concept with the capabilities of current models.

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red75prime • today at 5:41 AM

It reminds me of "At the time we drew boxes labeled 'perception', 'cognition' with arrows between them." An imprecise quote that I can't place.

I guess my box labelled 'subconsciousness' is trying to say that low-level mechanisms that give rise to the observed cognitive phenomena might have nothing to do with neat boxes.

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crorella • today at 5:31 AM

It looks like a lot like how data bases query optimizers work, with the exception that in the paper there is also a learning/memory component that conditions the evaluation of the answer provided by the first model.

zfoong • today at 7:13 AM

At least this is written before ChatGPT.

sinuhe69 • today at 5:51 AM

2021. Please remember the rule of HN to add the year if it’s not actual.

bbor • today at 4:43 AM

This is still a great paper, but it's missing the second axis of the quadric -- if the only two options are thinking fast or thinking about thinking, that leaves no room for thinking slow yet deliberately, AKA selfconsciousness. See https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/4280/pg4280-images.html for details

I do wonder if any of these folks ever got a chance to try this at one of the big labs, tho...

jannyfer • today at 4:25 AM

> submitted Oct 5 2021

(In case people miss that before discussion)

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aidiscoverywire • today at 6:00 AM

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simianwords • today at 6:20 AM

This has already been solved by GPT 5 Adaptive reasoning. A single model that knows when to reason or not based on a thinking parameter we provide (like xhigh). What’s the relevancy to post it today?

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