logoalt Hacker News

almogo • today at 1:01 AM • 9 replies • view on HN

Israeli here. Maybe I can give some helpful context.

Most people in Israel have not, and probably will not see this - any “support” for Palestinians is seen as a very far-left idea after Oct 7. There are still many here who oppose the extent of the war - I see regular demonstrations in Tel Aviv calling for peace. I will note that there seems to be fairly universal agreement that _something_ needed to be done after Oct 7. If you want to understand the Israeli perspective (doesn’t seem like most commenters do, but I’m not writing this for them), you have to look at how Oct 7 shaped Israeli society these last 3 years.

But anyways, don’t take my word for anything, pay attention to our upcoming elections. We will see how big the tents are then.

Wishing for peace, for saner voices to rise, and for an end to this cycle of violence.


Replies

mandevil • today at 1:37 AM

My own country lost its mind after 2,977 people died in one terrorist attack a quarter of a century ago and we made many many bad decisions for a long time afterwards. It sucked. In October 2023 I had hoped that my country's well publicized example would help your country not make the same choices but it's hard to learn from other people's mistakes.

➕ show 2 replies
choo-t • today at 2:51 AM

> you have to look at how Oct 7 shaped Israeli society these last 3 years.

Counterpoint, a more passive turn of phrase is more fitting: How Israeli society was shaped around oct 7.

The event doesn't shape society by itself, political and media response/interest shape the society.

flowerlad • today at 2:00 AM

I support Israel, but not wholeheartedly. I understand how Nakba was a matter of survival of your people. But why is this still going on today? Why is Israel continuing to expand settlements? Can you not understand how Palestinians must feel to constantly live in fear of being pushed out of their own homes? This is what gives me heartache. Can't you draw a line and say, what happened in the past cannot be reversed, but we will not continue to expand settlements?

➕ show 2 replies
itchyouch • today at 3:01 AM

As someone that’s watched the conflict and learned about the history, the Nakba and the displacement of Palestinians far before the years of Malcolm X and Martin Luther, the conflict with Palestine didn’t start on October 7th as this comment purports.

When I didn’t have any context of the history, I took comments like this one at face value.

However it is difficult to take comments like this in good faith as it frames Israelis as folks who are pushed beyond their conscience by their government, similar to Americans in current America, when the statistics are to the contrary.

47% support the genocidal approach - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support...

56/67/82% (depending on the polling method) support expulsion of Palestinians - https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jew...

This is the typical type of propaganda that many supporters post and write hoping to reinforce the narrative to the uninformed folks of their innocence.

While I can acknowledge that there are genuinely folks who oppose the ongoing genocide, what the world ought to look out for is whether after the next set of elections, an actual change of power and direction occurs.

And when I point to elections, the potential replacement candidates all support the same policies of genocide and expulsion. Some may be less, some are absolutely more, but if nothing changes, that is on the Israeli people.

As Americans hold responsibility for the current state of politics, Israeli’s hold the responsibility for their country as well.

➕ show 1 reply
blondie9x • today at 2:08 AM

The question is what did the government know before October 7th https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/09/ra-vivian-repor...

lorecore • today at 1:09 AM

Is there any acknowledgement in Israel that Nakba and the very formation of the country is to blame? That Zionism is a European colonial ideology and at it's very core requires ethnic cleansing? I feel like most of the world has become educated enough to reach this conclusion and thus stands against Israel. The only peaceful way out of the situation Israel is in would be serious and massive reparations (similar to what Germany has given to Jewish people). Is there any support for that?

➕ show 2 replies
mempko • today at 1:52 AM

It's a genocide and Israel showed the dark side is in everyone even in our modern, supposedly more enlightened time.

Humanity has a deep darkness and no society is immune. USA is a partner in this and as someone living here I'm deeply ashamed.

➕ show 1 reply
themgt • today at 2:15 AM

Most people in Israel have not, and probably will not see this

It is outside their zone of interest.

saligne • today at 4:43 AM

it is obscene that one of the perpetrators is the top comment here. if you want "peace" then stop victim blaming, stop pretending that "israeli society" is anything other than a murderous apartheid and etho-religious supremacist colony. you are settling on stolen land, i will not take your word or your sham elections for anything.