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pjc50 • yesterday at 2:19 PM • 0 replies • view on HN

> (what fact about?) their scooter actually making society better?

- illegal motorbike (ebike not complying with type restrictions)

- no plates (enables evading liability for damage or injury caused)

- underage riders / no license (danger to self and others)

- no helmet (personally I'm least bothered about this, but it is a legal requirement and safety issue if you're doing high speeds on a motorbike without one)

The "no plates" leads to hit-and-run incidents in which people have been seriously injured and a dog killed. There have also been incidents of these underage illegal riders getting themselves killed or seriously injured; while that's their own fault it's not something we should entirely shrug off.

> because UK residents sincerely want one

Yeah, this is kind of a general problem (online ""safety""), but the ebike kids are also a real problem. And not just in the UK.