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LarsDu88 • yesterday at 8:45 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Google has TPUs, a frontier model, a completely separate and lucrative revenue stream they can call on at will, and teams working on multiple different language modeling strategies simultaneously. Did I mention the vast and ominous data centers that already serve a significant fraction of the internet? If that ain't a moat, then what exactly is a moat?


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giancarlostoro • yesterday at 11:28 PM

I've been lowkey rooting for them, not a fan of Altman, and I don't know if I trust Anthropic either, I'm not Google's #1 fan, but I think they can definitely innovate heavily in this field, they have a lot of key things as has been mentioned.

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throwitaway222 • yesterday at 10:32 PM

Not to mention - they have the internet already indexed (they have a local copy), all books, and youtube. Beyond that, everyone "connects" to Gmail, but google HAS Gmail.

UncleOxidant • yesterday at 10:38 PM

Recently there's been a lot of talk about how Google has fallen behind and missed the AI boat. Now today with Gemini 4 they're back in the boat. But give it a few months, people will be counting Google out again. This has been a repeating pattern for at least a couple years now.

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jobs_throwaway • yesterday at 9:01 PM

Then why have they been lagging behind OpenAI and Anthropic for most of the last few years, and only briefly been at the frontier?

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IshKebab • yesterday at 9:23 PM

Don't forget the training data! Legal copies of all the books in the world, the entire web scraped, and all of YouTube.

bluecalm • yesterday at 9:18 PM

I don't think that other revenue stream is completely separate. It weighs on them as they need to think about tradeoffs. Classical search is going away sooner or later so they need to replace that with AI powered search.

Data centers are important but a few others also has them: Amazon, Microsoft, Meta. SpaceX will likely be in/at the top I AI dedicated precessing power in 2027 as well.

I don't see the moat. I see a company with a lot of other commitments that is not the best at delivering consumer facing products. They have some good cards but so do others.