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Zambyte • today at 2:12 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

Is it noble? The entire notion that training data can be "stolen" at all is quite silly. If I "steal" content that someone created to use for training, what am I actually stealing? They didn't lose anything. They still have everything they had before. What was "stolen" was "unrealized profit", or put another way: money that wasn't theirs, that they had no entitlement to. The only actual crime that is committed is "unauthorized copying", not stealing. Support and enforcement of copyright feels wildly authoritarian. It's hard to see it as noble.


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folkrav • today at 2:37 PM

The same could be said of any digital product being sold. Nobody actually loses anything but the actual sale either when you download a cracked game or piece of software, a movie, music, etc.

pepperoni_pizza • today at 2:22 PM

That's fair, but then people like you complain when someone "steals" I mean distills openai or anthropic models.

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