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2muchcoffeeman • today at 9:43 PM • 12 replies • view on HN

On windows you got garbage like trial versions of Blah software.

This is a fully functioning feature that people don’t like for what ever reason.


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Grombobulous • today at 10:08 PM

Automatically downloading AI models into disk space with no user-facing way to turn it off is especially hostile considering Apple as vendor of both the OS and the hardware is the same entity that overcharges for non-upgradable SSD storage in their machines.

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SAI_Peregrinus • today at 11:08 PM

It's the same reason IDEs have been largely supplanted by plugin-based editors & discrete toolchains. Integrating everything the user might want wastes lots of resources and includes things the user will never want.

isityettime • today at 9:59 PM

People have been doing the same thing with Cortana on Windows for ages. "Debloating" tools don't primarily target OEM add-ons like free trials of this or that; they very much target Windows components.

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penskymaterial • today at 10:15 PM

This simply isn't true.

Trial versions are installed by the OEMs so that's not a Windows problem.

Microsoft has given you the tools (Group Policy) for the last 25+ years to customize most of this.

My last install of Windows 11 was shockingly frustrating but with a little patience and discipline it's customized to Windows 7 levels of sanity using nothing but out of the box tools. Shockingly, it works better than writing angry blog posts about it.

They have to give you a choice because they have surly enterprise customers who would be upset otherwise.

2III7 • today at 9:50 PM

Fully functional feature consuming multiple gigabytes of storage and has questionable functional value. Maybe people don't want bloated AI crap on their desktops?

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Wazzymandias • today at 11:03 PM

I don't need a more bloated operating system or greater resource usage for things I don't want, use, or need. i'd prefer a calendar app that doesn't suck, and an OS that doesn't decrease performance by 5-15% on every new upgrade for slightly older machines

ramijames • today at 10:03 PM

I just don't use it. I'm on a laptop with 500gb. I don't want to lose on so much disk space for a feature I won't use.

burnte • today at 10:03 PM

On Windows there are lots of fully features features/applications people turn off. It's not all trial versions and it's disingenuous to pretend it's just that.

nalekberov • today at 9:59 PM

"fully functioning feature" -- more like fully functioning forceware/crapware which holds significant space.

So, it's not for "what ever reason", it's quite a reason to reject this.

dsego • today at 9:54 PM

IE is also a fully functioning feature, so are snap packages.