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dylan604 • today at 2:38 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

I'm wondering how good the simulators are. At the start of the season, they were still learning the systems trying to figure out why they were losing power in the straights. So depending on the driver, issues may or may not become apparent. That's like trying to debug why an email can only be sent to a recipient less than 500 miles away.


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degamad • today at 6:02 AM

> trying to debug why an email can only be sent to a recipient less than 500 miles away.

Ah, a student of the old masters....

(For the uninitiated, or those who wish to relive the memory: https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html )

johnwalkr • today at 6:56 AM

The simulators have the ECU in the loop but of course most of the inputs are simulated and they come from models for car dynamics and all kinds of behavior that have a lot of correlations and assumptions built in. As in a flight sim, some of the models are empirical (more like curve-fitting than simulation of physics). Losing power in straights is something a team would be highly motivated to see predicted in the simulator as that’s within normal conditions. But it’s not surprising the simulator can’t predict some edge cases, you’d need to get a lot of things right in the modeling and think of weird inputs.

What they probably could do yesterday, on top of checking a ton of telemetry, is understand which inputs were weird and put those into a simulator and get some hints for the FIA to work with. If you’re not aware, the FIA provides the ECU to all teams so that the telemetry used to check compliances and power modes are fair across all teams, and things like traction control are not there. This is why the FIA had to provide the firmware update.

mhh__ • today at 10:33 AM

They have people in sim almost all the time / as much as allowed during the weekend.

rossriley • today at 2:53 AM

Anthony Davidson who is the Mercedes test driver said that the teams can simulate these scenarios and it seemed that the Mercedes cars were not affected so it seems that other teams hadn't done similar testing in various scenarios.

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raverbashing • today at 10:11 AM

I think simulations play more into the strategy than on the power curves of the cars (though they probably calibrate that on pre-season training)