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arwineap • today at 1:20 AM • 3 replies • view on HN

I think you misunderstood what parent was saying

The same orgs that harassed and antagonized Aaron Schwartz are not going after AI for the same thing at a much much larger scale.

What's different? The size of their bank accounts.


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tzs • today at 5:33 AM

What's different is that they are not doing the same thing.

Here are a couple articles about the charges and the case against Swartz [1][2]. Compare the elements of the various charges to what the AI companies are doing and there isn't really a good match.

[1] https://volokh.com/2013/01/14/aaron-swartz-charges/

[2] https://volokh.com/2013/01/16/the-criminal-charges-against-a...

JumpCrisscross • today at 1:42 AM

> What's different?

One, time went on. The prosecution of Schwartz was seen as an overreach, as demonstrated by Ortiz’s failed political career thereafter.

Two, Schwartz’s charges were only ever charged. No jury or judge signed off on them.

Three, context changed. Schwartz wasn’t 5% of GDP. For better or for worse, that matters to voters.

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aeon_ai • today at 2:29 AM

Perhaps, that still frames harassing and antagonizing "Aaron Schwartz" as a bad thing (he was a "good guy"), and then implying that said bad thing should happen to AI because it is bad, when the modern AI frontier lab is operating on the fundamental philosophy that Aaron shared which is that information is free.

Compute, however, clearly is not.