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theappsecguy • today at 12:32 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

Wow, this really sucks. With all the money flocking to companies that trained LLMs on stolen data, we may lose the only set of IDEs that offer high quality professional development tools


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the__alchemist • today at 12:39 PM

I'm surprised that the word "only" still applies. I have my laments about JB (PyCharm / RR): Mainly centered around performance. Yet it has no competition! Whenever I read about VsCode, or Zed as alternatives, I feel disbelief, as they're not in the same league.

Zed in particular, from the way it was described upon release, sounded like it should have been a JB competitor. Reality: It can't even move functions or structs!

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marginalia_nu • today at 2:23 PM

Just feels like they've been making all the wrong decisions. Quality has been really lackluster, and their attempts to hop onto the AI train have been as annoying as they have been bad. CoPilot sucked. Their own AI coding models suck.

The redesign they've gone for also seems like a supremely weird choice. It's like they're trying to be more like VS Code, when their probably biggest selling point was that unlike VS Code, they offered a full and traditional IDE experience.

Their trajectory has been a deeply questionable mix of change for the sake of change and nervously doing what everyone else is doing.

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pjmlp • today at 1:36 PM

Visual Studio, RAD Studio, Eclipse, Netbeans, XCode, QtCreator, KDevelop are still around and good enough for most workflows.

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sebzim4500 • today at 12:36 PM

Their revenue is still going up so I don't think that's it.

onlyrealcuzzo • today at 12:40 PM

Only?

Microsoft's stuff is quite good, or you've got a really high bar.

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dukeyukey • today at 2:27 PM

Their revenue is up, why is them investing more a bad thing?

deadbabe • today at 3:04 PM

What do you mean, we still have neovim