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mjr00 • today at 12:42 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

Yeah look at the details below. Revenue is up 6% (which is not amazing but still growth). But staff expenses are up 34.2%. And the real big hint is "Cash Flow From Investing" plunging from -83 million $USD to -469. That's massive. They're staffing up and investing in... something.


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usrusr • today at 12:50 PM

> and investing in... something.

Reads like aimlessly burning whatever they felt they were able to burn without existential risk on some "also ran" LLM sinkhole.

In other words: nothing to see here, same as everybody else.

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Bratmon • today at 3:29 PM

That's straight-up incorrect. A massive new investment is by definition expense-neutral.

Negative cash flow from investing means that some prior investment has been shown to be worth far less than they paid for it.

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TheOtherHobbes • today at 1:54 PM

How much? Are they burning tokens to heat the offices?

I've always been a JB fan. But the last few updates have been quite rough, and they really don't seem to have worked out the AI thing at all.

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ahoka • today at 4:49 PM

Dying of FOMO.

rco8786 • today at 2:32 PM

Just a semi-educated guess....they plowed a bunch of cash into an "AI native" IDE product after getting spooked by Cursor.

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neuropacabra • today at 1:27 PM

I hope they are not investing in tokens. I say this as ex-JetBrainer. I want JetBrains to succeed but what it would in the IDE landscape?

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PunchyHamster • today at 1:59 PM

https://junie.jetbrains.com/ probably.

No idea why they thought they can compete with frontier AI labs on that, it's entirely waste of money

They also tried to push AI feature set as a separate subscription which is just insane in current tooling market.

All users wanted is good integration of multi-AI providers in their base offering. I think they are slowly shifting to that but that's a lot of money wasted already

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simoncion • today at 12:53 PM

> ...the real big hint is "Cash Flow From Investing" plunging from -83 million $USD to -469. That's massive. They're staffing up and investing in... something.

...or they're bailing out of really bad investments before they become even worse ones...