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erichocean • today at 1:29 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Does Mistral ever advance the state of the art on any dimension?

And if not, why do they exist?

Update: The number of people advocating not innovating is wild. There is no reason why Mistral cannot innovate in ML, they explicitly choose not to. My point is that, given that choice, they should spend their GPU hours differently.

"Sovereign AI" is a joke, there is no substantive difference between a post-trained open weight model from an American or Chinese company and what Mistral is doing today, beyond spending 80% of their GPU hours reproducing a last-gen model's pretraining.


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CJefferson • today at 1:35 PM

Why would the Europeans want a high-quality open source model that isn't either owned by American Trillion-dollar companies or created by the Chinese? You really can't think of any reasons?

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eigenspace • today at 1:36 PM

Has the French military advanced the state of the art on any dimension in the last hundred years?

And if not, why do they exist?

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swiftcoder • today at 1:37 PM

So that there exists an EU-native option in the near-frontier LLM space?

Not everyone is wild about being downstream of either the Chinese or US governments, particularly when it comes to things like cybersecurity

esafak • today at 1:50 PM

Mistral is one of the few European AI labs. Look up "sovereign AI".

embedding-shape • today at 1:35 PM

Just like Microsoft and most companies around PCs, their existence isn't about pushing any boundaries, but seemingly targeting deploying what's already been "invented" into the corporate world and bigger companies. Not "wrong", just different.

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whstl • today at 1:45 PM

Does erichocean ever advance the state of the art on any dimension?

And if not, why do they exist?

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