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apexalpha • today at 1:35 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

I think a big part of that is the Chinese publishing the solution for everywhere hurdle in the road they've encountered in the form of a paper.

Deepseek essentially releases instruction manuals in paper form.


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baxtr • today at 2:58 PM

I think it might have accelerated things but on a much more basic level, there seems to be no real moat in synthesizing the world’s knowledge into LLMs.

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wg0 • today at 1:39 PM

My spend on DeepSeek is not much and I regularly top up my balance every month as my support for all the good work DeepSeek is doing for the open science.

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typ • today at 2:17 PM

Architectural/algorithmic tweaks do advance the efficiency frontier nicely. But raw intelligence mostly comes from data (not just its sheer quantity, but also how it's curated & cleansed) and the scaling law. The know-how about data curation doesn't seem to get published much, even among the open-weight labs, though.

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jamienk • today at 3:20 PM

I'm not sure I like this framing - so much of AI research has been academic, in the open, building on others people's work. Much less comp sci generally, math & philosophy, etc. The idea that rich companies can just build stuff in secret because they have resources is a fantasy.

dvduval • today at 2:15 PM

So boring to see conversations moved over to Chinese models when that’s not even what we’re talking about here. This is about Mistral.

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bushbaba • today at 3:35 PM

How it should be. Knowledge should not be copyrighted. The world will be a better place with such information democratized

fittom • today at 2:40 PM

Also, the field moves fast, but slower than people do. Researchers and engineers switch companies every year or two, and the know-how walks out the door with them.

xnx • today at 2:06 PM

There would be a lot of competition even without DeepSeek. Workers can freely exfiltrate trade secrets without noncompetes in California.

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tokai • today at 1:48 PM

>instruction manuals in paper form

So the most common way to publish manuals?

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