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tkdb • today at 2:22 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

Doesn't the premise of bouncing back imply an ideal state to bounce back to?

And there we have it: ideal state for one species? the most possible species? longevity for individuals or the species?

The myth of some "natural" (the word literally means without human influence) state that is desired/better is somewhat ironic, right?

Any ideal state brings with it subjective criteria.


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antonvs • today at 3:51 PM

> Doesn't the premise of bouncing back imply an ideal state to bounce back to?

No, it's an "equilibrium" state, i.e. "a state of balance where opposing forces ... are equal" (from the MW definition.)

The general concept is that a stable system has at least one equilibrium state, in which no processes go out of control and potentially destroy the system.

A simple(?) example would be global warming - if the atmosphere keeps accumulating carbon, temperatures keep going up, the planet becomes uninhabitable, everything dies. Of course, that's subjectively an undesirable outcome for us - not an "ideal state", as you say - but the point is that any state in which no equilibrium can be reached (or at least approximated) exists is subject to such risks.

You could say that equilibrium is a necessary condition for an ideal state, but it's not sufficient. There can also be equilibrium states that are decidedly non-ideal, like the "everything dies" one I mentioned.

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