alt Hacker NewsWhat is really going on: all the AI labs are doing panicked model releases (and panicked training of new ones) because Qwen4 is rumored to come out end of October and is rumored to be very nice. Question is: is it another "Deepseek-moment" nice? Or just nice?
Btw: with Qwen4 I mean the next large Qwen model that is based on the Qwen4 architecture (Qwen 3.8 flash next was "almost" based on the new arch but obviously was a small model)
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verdverm • today at 4:29 PM
I wondered if there would be a Qwen 4 or we would go straight to 5, re: tetraphobia, but perhaps it's more like an uno reverse card in this case
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christkv • today at 4:06 PM
Awesome 3.8 next runs great on my Framework Desktop so I'm loving more local models.
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It doesn’t matter.
What matters more is if firm’s start using a bundle of American and Chinese models and when they find their feet - how large is the market for frontier?
Frontier has to displace labour one for one at some point or it’s over.