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jiraiyasarutobi • today at 2:05 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Vast majority don't care and simply want to play video games on their TV with PlayStation. This is only going to cause supply shortage and increased scalping. Annoyance to people who simply want to buy a console and play games. Get a PC and do whatever you want on it. The game ownership bullcrap from Sony (removal of disc bay) is a different problem. People don't realise the console hardware is subsidised and the firmware locks are the way to recoup the costs from Sony walled garden of games. If it becomes a general purpose hardware(more wide spread jailbreaks) Sony will eventually decide to simply sell the hardware at component cost parity and ruin it for everyone. Jailbreakers can't keep it to themselves.


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horsawlarway • today at 2:15 PM

By your own argument:

Sony prefers charging a tax on game sales that's high enough to recoup the cost of the hardware discount.

This means playstation owners are getting a discount on hardware, and then paying so much more for each game - to the point Sony prefers this because they get higher revenue than just selling the hardware at cost.

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You are literally advocating for the worse model for yourself.

Jailbreaks don't ruin anything other than a "predatory loan" style arrangement.

Personally, I fail to see the problem.

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dannyw • today at 2:16 PM

The supply shortages are already here, ps5 pro is sold out nearly everywhere and even GameStop is selling USED ps5 pros for $1400 USD.

This is a drop in the bucket, blame component surges (not to mention shortages and orders getting cancelled/trimmed) plus GTA 6.

xela79 • today at 2:21 PM

> Get a PC and do whatever you want on it.

the PS5 at its launch price was best game PC price/performance, with super fast storage, keyboard and mouse support and more

but the keyboard & mouse support is locked by DEVs and only a handful titles support it. a very limited 3rd party app store it could have been the steam box on steriods, alas not so.

at end of the day, buying a PS5 allows you to do with your hardware what you want, be it play games on your console or create a super computer cluster with your PS3 consoles running linux.

prepend • today at 2:13 PM

> People don't realise the console hardware is subsidised and the firmware locks are the way to recoup the costs from Sony walled garden of games.

Is this still true? PS5 price has gone up in the 5 years since release. I think there’s now a profit on every machine made, but Sony would like more money.

Brian_K_White • today at 2:53 PM

But the hardware has already not been subsidized, and actually turns a small profit since ps4, same for xbox.

They will all go full streaming the moment they can possibly get away with it anyway, the same as everyone else in all fields.

And when they do, what do you care anyway? Your argument is to just eat what you're given, so you can still just "buy a console and play ganes". If anything the console will be even cheaper and in more supply then.

I see no valid argument anywhere in here and I think you need to think up some better excuses to justify being mad at people who have done nothing to you. This attempt to make a peeing in the pool, ruining it for everyone argument doesn't hold any water.

Maybe you work Sony and that's why you have any opinion at all about what other people are doing with their own property? And even literally presume to tell them what to do and not do with it?

You attempt to criticize anyone elses proper civil upright behavior when you're doing THAT? Those maniac criminals hacking their own ps5's at least only hacked their own. They didn't try to tell you you had to hack yours.