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revolvingthrow • today at 6:38 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

I find the Sunday roast comparison of 5.6 vs 6 very interesting. I have no doubt most people will prefer 6, yet I am almost repulsed by all the images, so much needless whitespace, checklist and so on. Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child.

Given that OpenAI is making noises about merging work with chat (a horrible idea imo), and Work is very similar to Codex... I dearly hope things like these won't have any meaningful cross-polination into the actual work tools.

Seeing that the chat is based on 6.0 and not 6.1 is disappointing. The "Visual and interactive explanations" seems genuinely useful, but 6.1 is just so much better. I wouldn't truly trust the 6.1 with the explanations, but I'd trust them a fair bit more than 6.0. I understand that compute isn't infinite, but tons of people only interact with the chat and having your "things-explainer" be as good as it can be is important when people increasingly treat AI models as the source of truth, or even use them for academic learning and whatnot.

Still, the models will improve, so the visual explainer seems pretty good as an idea / mvp.


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DriverDaily • today at 9:46 PM

> Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child.

My most used prompt in the last week is probably "Explain this concisely and simply, like I am a child".

I spent years dumbing things down and creating visuals to support it for decision makers. I am frequently asking ChatGPT to do the same for me.

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janalsncm • today at 10:21 PM

I was about to comment the same thing. Why is a picture of a roast helpful in that moment? The user asked for a plan to prepare a meal. They need a list of ingredients not an image.

sunaookami • today at 8:39 PM

It's designed so that ads can be more easily integrated and make them harder to spot.

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zug_zug • today at 7:12 PM

Yeah it reminds me of one those obnoxious recipe/biography websites that is the laughingstock of the internet. Why would I possibly want an AI image of a imaginary roast once I'm already at the recipe stage?

Kinda just feels like google search results in AI, which imo is a step down from distilled information. Chatgpt is already able to generate charts and visuals upon request.

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AlphaSite • today at 8:25 PM

You can always tell it your preferences and ask it to remember them if you need it to.

cush • today at 8:15 PM

> Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child

Curious why that feels condescending? Like, the average person who is seeking a recipe needs a photo to know what to shoot for

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361994752 • today at 6:48 PM

I really hope they don't merge chat and work. That's kinda the only edge they have over Anthropic at this time point...

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joe_the_user • today at 6:53 PM

I don't like either. I'd want a recipe that could fit on a single page with type. Recipes you find on Google actively hide the ingredient list and simple procedures to get more of the user's time to monetize but I don't know why ChatGPT needs to be verbose here. Recipes are simple things. Simple search solved find recipes back in the early 2000s and it's prime example of a thing people have been enshitifying since there's not much to really give people beyond the formula. And sure, every entrepreneur screams "they think they want a formula but really they want an experience" but, no I don't.

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