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ffsm8 • today at 4:29 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

Outsourcing is not new, yet they haven't done it to date. you cannot seriously think that visa are the only reason why they didn't to date, or do you?


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ben_w • today at 6:34 PM

> Outsourcing is not new, yet they haven't done it to date

I didn't say "outsourcing", outsourcing is where you have a different company do the thing (who may or may not be in the same country).

What I am describing is "offshoring" (specifically where it's the same company, though this is not strictly necessary for the word "offshoring").

> yet they haven't done it to date

  As of June 30, 2026, we employed approximately 223,000 people on a full-time basis, 121,000 in the U.S. and 102,000 internationally. Of the total employees, 89,000 were in operations, including product support and consulting services, datacenter operations, and manufacturing and distribution; 77,000 were in product research and development; 43,000 were in sales and marketing; and 14,000 were in general and administration. Certain employees are subject to collective bargaining agreements.
- SEC filing, MICROSOFT CORPORATION, for the Fiscal Year Ended June 30, 2026, https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/0001193125263...

i.e. 45.7% of their staff never even needed a US visa, green card, or HB-1.