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cm2187 • today at 8:03 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

I am not sure I understand. Surely a AI generated song isn't a "fake song"? Is it a crime to publish an AI generated song?

It seems that what he is guilty of is to generate some fake users pretending to listen to his songs, is that right? I can see how it is fraud, but how is it different from all the dark patterns used by newspapers to generate more page prints (like auto-refreshing pages)?


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RobRivera • today at 8:12 PM

He is not guilt of using AI to create songs.

He is guilty of creating a bot farm to stream his music, to increase his user count to earn royalties, which is fraud.

MPSimmons • today at 8:11 PM

Seems like a ToS violation more than anything

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hackingonempty • today at 9:11 PM

If he used bots to stream his own song 80 million times then folks at the streaming services would notice. Instead he spread the 80 million fraudulent streams over tens of thousands of machine generated songs.

Dylan16807 • today at 8:17 PM

> Surely a AI generated song isn't a "fake song"?

Eh.

> Is it a crime to publish an AI generated song?

It's not. And a lot of this fraud was done with non-AI songs. But it helps show his attitude.

> It seems that what he is guilty of is to generate some fake users pretending to listen to his songs, is that right? I can see how it is fraud, but how is it different from all the dark patterns used by newspapers to generate more page prints (like auto-refreshing pages)?

Does that get them more money just for showing the ads? Usually the number of page views is up to you. If you find a way to make oodles of money off a mechanism like that, it very well might be criminal fraud!