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famouswaffles • today at 12:27 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

Over the year, nothing they've released with a lean proof attached has turned out false (That's sort of the entire point. It's not impossible but it's really difficult). There's a reason most mathematicians, including the ones vehemently against OpenAI's dumping are not arguing the results are secretly false or have a high potential to be. And indeed, if that were the case, it would quickly become apparent and all this worry about grant signers would vanish into the wind. It's very easy to ignore nonsense. The problem is that it isn't nonsense.


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shakna • today at 9:20 AM

> Over the year, nothing they've released with a lean proof attached has turned out false

That's not true. [0]

> On July 25, Ramana Kumar published a repository containing a sorry-free "disproof" of the Collatz conjecture, produced with AI assistance. It is not a valid proof because it exploits a bug in the kernel's handling of nested inductive types.

Even in this dump we're talking about, it hasn't been true. [1]

> In “Algebraicity of Weil classes on split abelian eightfolds” a sign error invalidates a stabilization-trace cancellation argument and the construction used by two dependent papers.

[0] https://leodemoura.github.io/blog/2026-8-24-postmortem-for-t...

[1] https://github.com/openai/math/blob/main/history.md

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advael • today at 12:55 AM

I really don't know enough about it to know whether you're right or not, nor do I know whether or not you know enough to make the claim you're making, so I won't make an argument one way or another because it's non-sequitur to what I said anyway. The fact that you or I or Sam Altman or Terrence Tao believe the claim is irrelevant to whether this obligates the person who wrote the blog post to believe the claim, and it sounds like he's willing to consider the possibility that it is right, and would read the paper if it reached a threshold of comprehensibility expected of people making that kind of claim.

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