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King-Aaron • today at 6:07 AM • 7 replies • view on HN

Yeah cool.

How long before the same thing is done to like, banking back ends? Wallstreet proprietary software? Amazons logistics and distribution systems?

It seems like we might be weeks/days/hours before a situation where someone back engineers and spoofs a system so pivotal to modern human society that the plug needs to be pulled.


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hn_submit • today at 7:21 AM

Like I've said many times: LLMs are useful for this (i.e. porting software from one programming language to another).

Porting software is painstaking grunt work which still takes a moderate amount of intelligence. It's therefore extremely expensive to port say, COBOL banking software running on mainframes, to another language like Java. That's why a lot of COBOL software is still in use. I expect this to die out in the coming years as many of these systems will finally be ported to another language (could be Rust or any other language).

chii • today at 6:47 AM

> spoofs a system so pivotal to modern human society that the plug needs to be pulled.

why would a recreated system be detrimental?

If currently there's a monopoly on a software, this AI recreation is a good outcome to poke holes in that monopoly. It's only bad if you are financially invested in said monopoly, and this would be a minority compared to the amount of benefits that society at large could obtain.

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brobdingnagians • today at 6:17 AM

If someone recreates Amazon's logistics and distribution systems they could try to compete with Amazon? But they'd also need the connections, distributors, transportation, etc. same with banking software, you need capital to be a bank not just software, and if they have the capital then the technology is working we intended making it easier to make new things and innovate, or at least just compete?

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konart • today at 7:12 AM

>banking back ends

As someone who works in a bank: depending on the exacty subsystem of a bank the answer is from "already" to "in 3-5 years".

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cedws • today at 7:06 AM

I’m already seeing videos of people who have used LMs to reverse engineer and clean room reimplement entire video games. I estimate this shit is minutes away from being shut down, because as we’ve all seen companies stealing is OK, but individuals stealing is heinous and a crime.

hypfer • today at 6:18 AM

I mean some people (me included) have been begging society to pull that plug since over 10 years now.

The plug being "the cloud" and "hooking everything up to the same internet".

These confusion attacks can only confuse people, because critical systems can exist in the same space where entertainment systems and all other categories of systems live. This was wrong even before LLMs.