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arpinum • today at 2:43 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

Seems like a mistake to stagger these hits, doing both in the same hour could have taken out backups before they had a chance to replicate elsewhere.


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SXX • today at 2:57 PM

Russia dont have that many large datacenters and replacing them is both damn hard and expensive.

Also unlike in Ukraine local organizations are required to run on infrastructure inside country by law and even major peering points are very centralised. Connections between Russia and other countries are even more centralised.

So it doesnt matter in what order datacenters going to be destroyed. Ukraine just need to take down enough of them.

chmod775 • today at 3:05 PM

There's little difference between 1 hour and 48 hours when it comes to the amount of data in question here.

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HarHarVeryFunny • today at 3:35 PM

A lot of the smaller drones that Ukraine is using only do limited damage - they may start a fire that can spread, but are not going to destroy an entire larger facility (although the Flamingo can do significant damage). Many Russian energy facilities just get hit repeatedly over time - Russia will fix as fast as they can. Staggering hits seems to make sense.

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bbor • today at 2:59 PM

To be clear, it seems like two different datacenters, and the first attack alone seems to have been wildly successful already, burning down ~1/3rd of the entire building (!!!). Some of the reported outages:

  The most serious disruptions were reported in Moscow and St. Petersburg, where users also experienced problems with T-Bank, internet provider SkyNet, and the Mango Office cloud service... Yandex Disk, Yandex Documents, and other company services... online bus-ticket sales in the Moscow region [via] MosTransAvto... Several major Russian media websites, including RBC, RIA Novosti, Kommersant, Vedomosti, Interfax, and Vesti... Russian Railways...
And all that's before this attack. We'll see what the extent is, I guess.

So I'd say the goal here is to intimidate and/or inconvenience the Russian public and general economy, which is the main way they'll advance a war against a country they are forbidden from invading to any semi-meaningful degree (due to nukes). Permenantly destroying data would be nice, sure, but service interruption is already such a huge win that it'd be a marginal improvement only, IMHO.

That is, unless there are cloud-native banks without backups, which... yikes! Possible, I suppose?

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tokai • today at 3:08 PM

Backups don't matter at all if you can destroy the hardware. Yandex is not rebuilding this at meaningful price, and if they do Ukrainians just burn it down again.

bpodgursky • today at 2:44 PM

Taking out GPUs is more important than storage nowdays.

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