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AdmiralAsshat • today at 3:04 PM • 11 replies • view on HN

> "President Trump will never allow the International Criminal Court to prosecute Americans," Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement, first published by Reuters.

Can't think of a more flagrant and succinct declaration that the US believes itself "above the law."


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abc123abc123 • today at 3:09 PM

All countries are above the law. When was the last time you saw a country in jail or meaningfully punished? The only one who can punish a country is another country if they are powerful and violent enough.

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loeg • today at 4:32 PM

International law isn't real. If Americans do crimes, they will be tried for them (or not) in American courts.

ndiddy • today at 3:27 PM

This is largely consistent with historical US views on international law. In 2002 the US passed the American Service-Members' Protection Act, which states that if any US service member or elected official is criminally prosecuted by the ICC, the president can use "any means necessary" (i.e. invading the Hague) to ensure their release.

In general any idea that international law is relevant except as a tool for the West to provide moral justification for its actions when it's convenient to do so is naive. At least the Trump administration being more vulgar and crude in expressing its disregard for international law compared to previous administrations may open more people's eyes.

palmotea • today at 3:22 PM

>> "President Trump will never allow the International Criminal Court to prosecute Americans," Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement, first published by Reuters.

> Can't think of a more flagrant and succinct declaration that the US believes itself "above the law."

So would you think of yourself "above the law" if you refused to submit to my law?

Apparently the US never ratified the ICC treaty. International relations is literally an anarchy, there's no "higher authority" to impose law. Countries can only voluntarily submit to a treaty, or be violently coerced by another country.

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kijashdkujdfhas • today at 3:06 PM

"Rules for thee, but not for me!"

rainworld • today at 3:25 PM

The US has always been “above the law.” This is about Israel and its genocide against the Palestinians.

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Razengan • today at 3:07 PM

We don’t have even need to imagine what would have happened if the Nazis had won

As in, they would have forgiven themselves and punished international courts who tried to prosecute them.

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BLKNSLVR • today at 3:31 PM

Random bombings of boats in the Caribbean is another.

croes • today at 3:05 PM

That’s a war crime confession, isn’t it?

stickfigure • today at 3:24 PM

This is not "the US", this is one or two very unpopular politicians whose tenure will be short. Wait until the midterm elections before you judge the whole country.

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