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reasonableklout • today at 1:05 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

I think ridesharing was a net good for ordinary people even if Uber is/was unethical.

However, the counterargument falls entirely flat. "Whatever benefits AI has to offer on a societal level are going to take a long long time to show up". We don't have the luxury of time because AI disrupting communities and livelihoods faster than perhaps any other technology we've ever seen, with the most capital that has ever been put into any tech since the railroads.

Even if you're optimistic we'll eventually get the cancer cures and fusion reactors, doesn't it make sense from the perspective of an ordinary American to regulate the harms like the homework cheating, parasocial relationships, job losses, cyber attacks, etc., especially if it will take years to get the benefits?


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fasterik • today at 1:21 AM

Different benefits will show up at different rates. We don't need to wait for cancer cures and fusion reactors. It's already easier than ever to start a small business and use AI for things that would have been prohibitively expensive or time-consuming before. The technology is transforming how scientific research is done, how engineering is done, etc.

I don't see much evidence in the economic data that AI is disrupting livelihoods. Unemployment has been stable around 4% for a while and productivity growth has been at historically normal rates for the past 5 years. I think a more likely explanation is that AI is increasing uncertainty in some industries, which are seeing higher employee turnover, and many of those people are moving laterally into other jobs where their skills are more likely to be useful.

I don't think anyone in this thread has argued against mitigating harms. The OP was about current capabilities and the perceived lack of benefits for the average person.

mindwok • today at 2:32 AM

To be clear, I don't disagree with your sentiment that the disruptiveness of AI is causing a lot of grief. But magnitude of disruption is not an indicator of magnitude of benefit (or lack thereof).

Some of the most disruptive periods in history brought about the greatest long term improvements in society. This is the price we pay for changing how things are done, sometimes for better and sometimes for worse. We don't know which one it is for AI yet.