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mmnfrdmcx • today at 9:12 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

Cloud is insanely expensive and inefficient. Too many engineers don't understand how slow I/O back and forth is on network storage, or VMs with chatty neighbors are compared to bare metal...


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linsomniac • today at 12:23 PM

>Cloud is insanely expensive

The math has drastically changed over the last few years. For example, the on-prem database server we bought 4 years ago for $14K is now pricing out at $96K.

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bell-cot • today at 12:32 PM

> Cloud is insanely expensive and inefficient.

Depends on your metrics. Say you're an early startup - short on man-hours and bare-metal skills, with backers who think that "cloud" sounds fast, cool, and scalable.

Or your a VP at some big company - with C-suite mandate to deliver Cool Solutions ASAP, whatever the cost...but a byzantine mess of middle managers between you and the actual engineers. Deciding "we'll use CloudCo" can rob your steaming heap of PHB's of a lot of opportunities to make bad decisions and drag things out.

dikei • today at 9:48 AM

It's all about trade off.

Do you want to spend thousands of dollar upfront for that DB server with sweet sweet NVME SSDs, of which your application might not even use 1% before the app get scraped?

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MisterMunchkin • today at 12:07 PM

I can have an app which scales to zero and costs me nothing, but could instantly handle everyone using it. That's not possible on-prem.

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perching_aix • today at 9:24 AM

> Too many engineers don't understand how (...) VMs with chatty neighbors are compared to bare metal

sell a lie, blame the victim?