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c0balt • today at 5:29 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

I would maybe tone that down that sentiment a bit and limit the adjustement.

You actually do want to be able to monitor them remotely, like most industrial/commercial refrigeration, to detect failures faster and more reliably. They should still be at least secured with normal auth/autz in addition to perimeter security, though.

If I can know when a fridge failed within the hour (even at night) then I can also dispatch a technician same/next day more easily.


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skeeter2020 • today at 7:38 PM

this definitely does not require a fridge be "online" and have the ability to be remotely programmed. At the very least have the monitoring and potentially I/O capabilities in a different device that can easily be removed from the system. Integrated smart fridges deserve to Suck it, Jin-yang!

stymaar • today at 5:57 PM

If what's needed is the ability to monitor them, then why are these things remote-controllable?!

Obviously read-only access to some sensor is not the same attack surface as having the ability to remotely shut-down the refrigeration.

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iugtmkbdfil834 • today at 5:34 PM

There is value in nuance and debating whether the solution should be scaled down to say a store ( or only available on local vlan or something), but I think the value of discussing that is kinda diminishing, when, apparently, the controls for all stores can be done from the same hit.

But to address your specific point:

being able to monitor does not ( or at least should not ) automatically equal put it on the web

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mrweasel • today at 5:52 PM

This still shouldn't be online. They can be networked, if you need remote monitoring, but that's different from being online (at least in my definition).

Obviously it's a question of cost and convenience, and just dumping your appliance on the internet and make it phone home is going to be the cheaper option. If you want security those appliances goes on a separate network, which cannot reach the internet.

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