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HackerThemAll • today at 9:05 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

> We see nothing.

Clear your glasses. For example - https://getartcraft.com/apps Thanks to those people we may soon have great alternatives to monopolies.


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sdcfgy • today at 9:09 AM

Have you tried one? They are like gargling dog shit.

Adobe is cheap compared to that miserable experience.

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hobofan • today at 9:14 AM

All of them are listed as either "in development" or "early alpha", and every single person that has tried to do something even roughly resembling a task you would do with the original product can tell you that it's broken in a thousand ways.

As it stands right now, it proofs little more than it can replicate the post-boot screen of the original products.

Just because every tech news outlet was dumb enough to report it without trying it doesn't mean you have to join the echo chamber.

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There are definitely examples out there that do use a similar relentlessly agentic development style that have produced great results. e.g. xberg[0] (formerly kreuzberg), is a great document content extractor, and in a relatively short amount of time has become one of the most robust and performant. I've reported about a dozen edge cases of documents of various types that were unextractable, and the maintainer (or their agents) were able to add a fix in maximum a day turnaround every time.

[0]: https://github.com/xberg-io/xberg

altmanaltman • today at 9:14 AM

What is that alternative? How will they maintain and keep updates going, how will they add more features, how will they support non-technical customers, how will they offer cloud that a lot of customers are used to?

All of them cost money. They are ripping off Adobe to create the new Adobe.

The worst thing is that there are genuine legit open source projects that already offered an alternative but they did not need AI or ripping off Adobe as a marketing gimmick.

Vibecoded should not be an endorsement in 2026, it should be a warning.

dofm • today at 9:17 AM

Slop clones of Adobe's apps doesn't feel "great" to me.

Moral compass/integrity stuff. Can't explain why, it just feels like absolutely the wrong direction to be heading in.