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postalcoder • today at 4:15 PM • 10 replies • view on HN

I'm using this model via API. I am most excited about its ability to write the english language (or any language). My least favorite trend on twitter has been people posting 2D illustrations/3D renders as a proxy for model capability. Well-written prose is far less likely to go viral but far outstrips the importance rendering a fantasy world in one shot.

I've been trying it out via the API and the model has been a delight so far. Clear in the head, not RL-fried, distinct writing style, and big model smell. That said, the em-dash is back w/ this model.

That said, I would be so frustrated with Sundar Pichai if I was on the Google team. The botched rollout of this model seems to be entirely a matter of capacity, and Pichai has been more than happy to give it to anybody but his own team.


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asdfman123 • today at 5:52 PM

I've been using it for a while internally at Google. I prefer Argon over Opus 5.5 because of the clear thinking and directness. It phrases things in an organized, straightforward way.

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cluckindan • today at 7:47 PM

Em dashes are underappreciated — they are visually pleasing, not cluttery like semicolons or definitive like colons.

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dsco • today at 9:20 PM

I added Gemini 4 Argon to our video creation benchmarks.

The results are a bit disappointing given Googles scale and training data.

The results are on par with cheaper Chinese open source models to be frank. https://cliphou.se/benchmark/

algoth1 • today at 4:25 PM

I missed the em dash — ngl

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pkulak • today at 7:51 PM

I was kinda hoping I'd get to the end and it would say, "In fact, this entire post was drafted by Argon!"

postexitus • today at 4:30 PM

What was botched about it?

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baq • today at 7:47 PM

Unpopular opinion: em-dash is fine

jstummbillig • today at 5:38 PM

> That said, the em-dash is back w/ this model.

noooooooo

polynomial • today at 5:10 PM

> far outstrips the importance rendering a fantasy world in one shot.

Given FelonyBench, do we also have a FantasyBench?